My new to me 2500 action will not extract an unfired round but will if it’s shot is this normal? The chamber is clean…… Jim
Will not extract a loaded round
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Not uncommon Jim. Usually chambers are cut to engrave, sometimes fully.
That said, insure extractors are clean and tight, tease spring off to ensure no crap Underneath. Also look at extractor claw, not pusher, make sure it is a good 90deg angle, sometimes a bit of work with a jewelers file will make a difference. Also, make sure spring is snug, sometimes you need to give it a moderate squeeze.
That said, insure extractors are clean and tight, tease spring off to ensure no crap Underneath. Also look at extractor claw, not pusher, make sure it is a good 90deg angle, sometimes a bit of work with a jewelers file will make a difference. Also, make sure spring is snug, sometimes you need to give it a moderate squeeze.
Well I tried everything suggested and it still will not pull the loaded round out. I guess I have to live with it……. Jim
Jim, I think the other posts confirm that it is normal to not be able to pull a loaded road out. Once in a while, you may be able to pull one out, but not frequently, even with the things that Tim mentioned above.
There's a company that makes a little tool that's designed to extract a live round. However I bent mine the first time I tested it on one of my RFBR rifles. Instead I keep a small pocket knife in my range box that has a small, flat blade that makes it pretty easy to remove a live round. A small flat blade screw driver also works pretty well
Well, FWIW, when you’re sitting at the bench ready to go, I can not think of many reasons you’d need to do that at all.
Kind of like CFBR With guys that seat into the lands, you try an extract, you get powder spilled inside your action.
Yeah, I have the same tool. Darn thing bent first time I used it. Worthless.
I have a couple jewelers screw drivers in range box.
Yes that's the easiest way but, keep in mind, that there may still be times you may need to manually extract a live round. Like when/if the range gets called cold for an emergency.
Yeah, as a long time NRA RSO, shooting a round in the ground isn't a good situation either (the berm would be much better). Regardless, you may want to be prepared for a time when you can't discharge the round in the chamber
At my club discharging into the ground is a big NO NO. If the range goes cold and you have a round in the chamber that will not extract (common with modern target rifles) the put your hand up high and the R O will make the range hot for you to PUT IT IN THE BACK STOP
After I moved to TX (and no longer a RSO) we were shooting at a local range. At one point a cease fire was called and I had one in the chamber. RSO told me to shoot in the ground. I told him I wasn't comfortable with that and he shouldn't be either. I told him "I'll put it in the berm". So I did. Wasn't first or last time I had to play RSO at that range. We stopped going there when (thankfully) I was able to join a private club where I now shoot ARA
My 2 cents on RF extraction issues. The RF round was developed well over a hundred years ago utilizing an extractor that was part of the chamber wall. It made contact with the case wall forward of the rim. Modern RF leaves the chamber wall intact without an extractor cut through it. The extractor hook is now resting away from the case wall and the hook is now contacting on the curve of the front of the rim. Here in lies the problem. It wants to slip off. Some things that may help that have not been mentioned so far are done when fitting the barrel. A little larger chamber diameter in the rear. This should be about .012 deep. The hook should have a sharp point and even an inward facing burr. Stronger spring tension on the hook can also help. The cut should be as close to the chamber diameter without going too far forward so as to not weaken the the remaining wall and having it split with use. You should be able to pull a fully engraved round without fail. This is test one. Test two is that it should reliably extract fired rounds 99+% of the time. The "extraction problem" was not as common years ago. This leads me to believe that there have been changes in the manufacture of the ammo that vary from lot to lot and between brands. I don't want an extraction distraction when I am shooting a target.
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It’s a term we used in some 60 years of competitive shooting, I just didn’t go through the complete procedure. Now that you brought it up. What’s with if there is a cease fire and you open the bolt and the round stays in the chamber and you remove the bolt does that satisfy the safety part? It can’t fire with no bolt in the rifle and you step away from the bench. I don’t see any rules on that….. jim